RE: Holder Family History Birmingham - All things - 2

#16 by phil ( deleted ) , Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:45 am

Lynn

I cannot find any reason for the production of these tokens with florets in 1846 other than the opening of the Rodney or the addition of a new hall in 1847. I had a thought that they might have been used to differentiate the tokens as opposed to tokens without the florets. Ones with one night and the next night ones without. This way they would be able to tell if they were used on the night they were issued.

#17 by Stirling Single , Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:20 am

Thanks Phil, All interesting thoughts [Thinking] We wiiiiiill find out. Lynn.
Nice sunny day down here but chilly out.

#18 by mikejee , Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:29 am

It is not online. The book, which I had never heard of before, came up on e-bay earlier this year,
MG is the Montague guest collection in th eBritish museum
F is collection of Dr freudenthal, British museum
M is On manuscript list of collection of John macmillan, the present position of the collection is (in 1978) unknown
B is dept Archeology, Birm Museum & Art Gallery
F is "from other transient lists" - not very helpful
I think BFHL must refer to several source ( not clear):
B as dept Archeology, Birm Museum & Art Gallery
F is "from other transient lists"
H is in present collection of present compiler (R.N.P.Hawkins)
L - no idea as it is not listed
That's the best I can do I'm afraid

#19 by Stirling Single , Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:51 am

Mike, Thanks so much for spending so much time on this.
This is a fantastic help and gives me lots and lots to look up and learn about.
You are a wealth of knowledge that you so kindly share.
Lynn.

#20 by astoness , Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:36 pm

well done mike..

#21 by mikejee , Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:41 pm

Lynn
I don't know if you have seen the online book "The token coinage of Warwickshire with descriptive and historical notes (1895)"
at http://archive.org/details/tokencoinageofwa00daviuoft . I mentions some Holders tokens

#22 by Stirling Single , Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:32 pm

Mike,
I've just had a good read. Found the detailed reference on Holder's on Page 114
May I just check with you that I didn't miss any other reference, that you may have picked up.
Lynn. - Thank-you.

#23 by mikejee , Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:59 pm

I just searched for Holders on the pdf and that came up. No others came up

#24 by Stirling Single , Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:55 am

Mike,
Wnen I look up a word - I press Ctrl and f on the keyboard, and it did't get it.
When you say you searched on the pdf could you tell me how you do that, please.
Lynn.

#25 by mikejee , Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:17 am

I usually download anything like this, and had already . On the downloaded pdf I just went to "Edit", then "Find" . I think that is the same as Control F. I get a small box to put in the search term,

#26 by Stirling Single , Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:02 pm

Thanks Mike, I shall try again but no need this time as you have already, very kindly done it. Lynn [Skipping Happy]

#27 by Stirling Single , Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:53 am

Phil, The grey coloured token - a few posts back - can you remember the link for the site that you got it off. [Skipping Happy] Lynn.

#28 by phil ( deleted ) , Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:27 am

Lynn

I'm sorry but I didn't keep a record of where I got it from, as I was just surfing. I suppose it might have been the Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery Site as the name does come to mind.

#29 by mikejee , Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:53 pm

In the list that I showed earlier there is also this picture of an octagonal token, which presumably is the "octalube" referrred to in the list

#30 by Stirling Single , Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:19 pm

Yes Mike, This token I do have and also one, in the same shape, with 2d on the back but they are not as light grey in colour as the photographs.
They are more of a bronze colour.
Lynn.

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