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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#16 by Stirling Single , Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:04 pm

Yes, this is the same Sir John Holder as Holder Road in Yardley.

Then you have 4 of his daughters:-
Kathleen Road
Geraldine Road
Flora Road
Gladys Road

All running along side Holder Road.

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#17 by Sheldonboy , Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:15 pm

Posted by Stirling Single

Yes, this is the same Sir John Holder as Holder Road in Yardley.

Then you have 4 of his daughters:-
Kathleen Road
Geraldine Road
Flora Road
Gladys Road

All running along side Holder Road.

Lynn.


Thank you Lynn that's the first I have heard of this. I live not far from there. SB


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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#18 by phil ( deleted ) , Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:37 pm

Lynn

Here is another little something you may find interesting.

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#19 by Stirling Single , Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:47 pm

Phil,

That is a really Good one. Well done.

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#20 by mikejee , Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:12 am

Lynn
I know of no books on directories or electoral rolls, though I would think genealogical books might have something. You can see some directories on http://www.historicaldirectories.org , and Birmingham is lucky with electoral rolls, in that I know of no other town where any are available online . It is not every year, and it only includes people registered at that address for voting , and the voting qualifications have varied over the years (ie in general no women listed in 1912).
These are available at http://www.midlandshistoricaldata.org together with access to some directories.
Anyway a few other snippets. I have two addresses for Henry Holder in Hanley Castle : Yew tree house, Roberts End(1870) and Lansdowne House (1879) . Between these two years he and the vicar paid for trees to be planted in the Hanley Castle churchyard. Henry sold Yew tree house in 1876 for £7500, which is £500,000 today (http://hanleyswan.net/history/families/medley/ ). A picture of the Yew tree house staff in 1886 (after he had sold it) is at http://hanleyswan.net/gallery/yew-tree-house-staff-c-1886/ . The accompanying picture may be Yew tre House. It is now called Yew tree house guest house, but I have another rreferenc ethat says theold Yew tree house is now called “The Firs”, and can’t find that place at all, so maybe they changed thename back again. I cannot find Lansdowne house , so it has probably been demolished or changed its name. I think I have found the registration of his death in the first quarter of 1880 (Jan-March) Ref. Upton on Severn 6c 199. you would have to get the certificate to get exact date of death


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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#21 by Stirling Single , Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:16 pm

Mike,

A lot of information to look up here. I shall start by Emailing the guest house and see if they can be of any help. Will let you know.

Also, All these other Websites are new ones for me. Thanks I do appreciate all of that.

Mike - May I ask, what do you mean by that you found the registration of his death - in the first quarter of 1880 Were did you look that up?

Again many thanks for your help.

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#22 by Stirling Single , Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:25 pm

Mike,

There is a Lansdowne House in Malvern, WR14 2AS Mabe he moved from Hanley Castle to Malvern.

It would have been a plot of ground on which is now built flats, retirement bungalows at the back and houses.

On one side railway line - on the other side an old low stone wall that runs for quite a while down the road, that may very well have been the boundry for the house.

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#23 by mikejee , Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:02 am

That's very possible Lynn. It wouldn't be moving very far. I searched for the death in ancestry. You would have to get the death certificate to be absolutely sure it was the right one, but it is the rightname in th eright place, around when it might have happened


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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#24 by Stirling Single , Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:46 pm

Mike,

I've found it in a Shovell's Dictionary Book of Birmingham that I have and it was Jan 27th 1880 in his 70th year. Thanks.

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#25 by astoness , Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:21 pm

hi lynn..im so pleased that i am not the only woman interested in pubs....will help in anyway i can....

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#26 by Sheldonboy , Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:26 pm

Posted by astoness
hi lynn..im so pleased that i am not the only woman interested in pubs....will help in anyway i can....

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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#27 by mikejee , Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:59 pm

On the other thread SB you said she was only interested in bed. Maybe that's what she has been doing -turning her bedroom in to a Pub


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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#28 by Sheldonboy , Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:24 am

Posted by mikejee
On the other thread SB you said she was only interested in bed. Maybe that's what she has been doing -turning her bedroom in to a Pub


I'm glad you said that Mike.


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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#29 by phil ( deleted ) , Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:11 pm

Lynn

I sorted you one or two more Holders pubs out, I didn't think there were so many and there were obviously more. The only thing that makes me feel a little ashamed is quite how many of them I managed to drink in.

Phil

1. Acorn InnWheeler St Lozells
2. Bath Tavern Mary St Balsall Heath
3. Bell Vue Inn Wheeler St Lozells
4. Britannia Inn Warwick Rd Tyseley
5. Bulls Head Stratford Rd Hall Green
6. Gradstone Arms Clifton Rd Balsall Heath
7. Glassblowers Arms Icknield Port Rd Ladywood
8. Green Man Summer Lane Newtown
9. Kings Arms Alcester Rd King Heath


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RE: Holders Pubs in Birmingham,

#30 by phil ( deleted ) , Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:19 pm

Lynn

A few more to add to the last post, I've split them in two halves in case they won't upload so many at a time.

Phil

10. Lamp Tavern High St Bordesley
11. Lord Byron Farm St Newtown
12. Lord Clifden Great Hampton St Hockley
13. New Inns Summer Rd Erdington
14. Observatory Inn Hunters Rd Lozells
15. Sampson & Lion Yardley Rd Bordesley Green
16. The Trees Bristol Rd Edgbaston
17. Union Inn Gerrard St Lozells


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