RE: Pubs & Breweries - 5

Mike that has been the story for generations with some of the big breweries. They certainly didn't get a big as they did by being kind to their staff band customers.

But Ember isn't a brewery now, is it. At least when the breweries had their own pubs and brewed beer they had some knowledge of the industry. A large majority of pubs now are owned by people like Ember.

No Mike Ember are not a Brewery in their own right but they are owned and managed by Mitchells and Butlers wo are one of if not the biggest brewing groups in the country.

What happened to Bass?

Just another name change

I would argue with that SB. Mitchell & butlers are not a brewery group. They own no breweries , as can be seen from their website at http://www.mbplc.com/aboutus/. They are just a collection of "brands " of restaurants, run by a few dodgy accountants and "managers" at head office, who, as i said previously, j
know bugger all about anything other than screwing their customers for as much as they can get. their main interest is the food side, and the beerr is just a sideline now.
mike

Quote: mikejee wrote in post #66

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I would argue with that SB. Mitchell & butlers are not a brewery group. They own no breweries , as can be seen from their website at http://www.mbplc.com/aboutus/. They are just a collection of "brands " of restaurants, run by a few dodgy accountants and "managers" at head office, who, as i said previously, j
know bugger all about anything other than screwing their customers for as much as they can get. their main interest is the food side, and the beer is just a sideline now.
mike

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I wouldn't argue with anything you haev said in the last post. All I would argue with is that M& B was any real connection with brewing beer, other than having it delivered to their restaurants/pubs, or has anyone in the organization that actually knows anything about brewing, or cares a toss.

Quote: mikejee wrote in post #68

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I wouldn't argue with anything you haev said in the last post. All I would argue with is that M& B was any real connection with brewing beer, other than having it delivered to their restaurants/pubs, or has anyone in the organization that actually knows anything about brewing, or cares a toss.

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This why the likes of Ember Inns etc exist. More Government interference and tom foolery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beer_Orders

Quote: Sheldonboy wrote in post #69

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To be fair they did own one of the biggest breweries in the country at Cape Hill#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchells_%26_Butlers

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Quote: mikejee wrote in post #71

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Quote: Sheldonboy wrote in post #69

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To be fair they did own one of the biggest breweries in the country at Cape Hill#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchells_%26_Butlers

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And closed it to sell off the land.
As to the effect of the Beer orders: this just enabled money men to demolish the system and , in the name of "competition" make a mint from it -and to hell with the customers. A similar "competition" matter lead to the ridiculous mess on the railways, which resulted in increased money from the government being necessary to enable the rail companies to "compete", and take most of the subsidy out in dividends and bonuses. Once an accountant, always a crook.

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This is not Birmingham, but Reading, but a beautifully relevant miss-typing (or perhaps sabotage from a sympathetic typist) in a planning application to get rid of a historic pub (from page 18 of http://documents.reading.gov.uk/AnitePublicDocs/00284240.pdf ) has just been brought to my attention (marked in red by me):

The Granby is vacant, precisely because it was unsuccessful financially and it was
not possible to finds a public house operator prepared to buy the property and ruin it
as a public house, despite extensive marketing for a prolonged period. Thus the
applicants are uncertain that it was viable as a public house;

No more need be said

Quote: Sheldonboy wrote in post #63

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No Mike Ember are not a Brewery in their own right but they are owned and managed by Mitchells and Butlers wo are one of if not the biggest brewing groups in the country.

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