Postcard-Birmingham Postmark.

Does anyone recognize the church on this Postcard or know if the picture is Birmingham. Please,any ideas.
Lynn.

Lynn a better view of the church might help. if I were pushed for an answer I would suggest St Barnabus Erdington. SB might be able to confirm that or not as he spent half his young life just across the road in a den of iniquity called "Mothers".

Phil

I think it has an air of Handsworth about it but I haven't checked out the church yet.

Lynn

I have looked through the photos of Birmingham churches I have on file, I have well in excess of 100 and I have been unable to match it up with anything I have. The steeple I can match with several and the curve in the road I can also match. I thought it could be St Giles in Sheldon but the steeple has no pinnacles then I found this early drawing from 1865 when the steeple did have pinnacles, but I don't think the body of the church matches. I'll keep looking.

Phil

I can not think of any other old church in Sheldon other than St Giles.

The problem I have with this picture. If it is St. Giles Sheldon the ground slopes up on the right hand side. where St Giles Ground slopes down from the front to the back. The small road on the right hand side which now goes down from the RAFA building past the Vicarage where the Reverend Thomas Bray lived (ie Brays Road). That slopes down to where the farm is. It is of course possible that some landscaping work had been done I'm not sure.

SB

As I said it was only a suggestion, I don't think Lynn is even 100% sure it is a Birmingham pub. I was only trying to demonstrate how things even churches can change over the years. The church in Lynn's photo could be gone now or changed that much we wouldn't recognise it. As I say I will keep looking, I like a good mystery.

Phil

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SB

As I said it was only a suggestion, I don't think Lynn is even 100% sure it is a Birmingham pub. I was only trying to demonstrate how things even churches can change over the years. The church in Lynn's photo could be gone now or changed that much we wouldn't recognise it. As I say I will keep looking, I like a good mystery.

Phil

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I am sure it's not a pub though Phil.

The children are too well dressed for Brummie brats.

Have just thought it might be helpful to put the back of postcard on as well as it might help to date it.
I haven't ever gone into the History of postcards and their designs, origions etc. Looks like - Post/Rotary/Card - at the top of this one.
Am just looking at a short History of Postcards and it says - The printing quality of Edwardian postcards varied considerably. Several companies {including Rotary, Philco and Davidson} produced high quality real photos but without looking furthur I don't see where Rotary were based.
The postmark is from Birmingham and it's addressed to Selly Park, Birmingham.
It's obviously 1900's but I should think an early version as later cards had the producers name down the left hand side.
Lynn.

Good thinking John, Yes, the children are very well dressed, but could be well out on the outskirts of Birmingham in the 1900's
Lynn.

That looks like May 26th 1922 or 27. Does the postmark Birmingham confirm that it was posted in Birmingham or just delivered to Birmingham?

Phil

Phil,
Yes, I can see what you mean about the date now that you have pointed it out.
Lynn.

Peculiar that there is no message. This, i would guess, might mean that it was sent to herself from somewhere she was visiting. so it liely wasn't in Brum

Thats the thing I have never bothered to look at envelope when mail is delivered, I'm not sure if it is franked at the local office where it is sent from or the one it is delivered from. Does anybody know?

Phil