Birmingham in 2015

Not the city I grew up in.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-34499730

It seem's to me that these criminal's are taking full advantage of all these cut back's and are taking over the street's ,the police just havent got the resourses to contain it ,we all know who to blame for that ,this government.

Gorrit in one Joe

It makes you wonder where it's all going to finish up ,gun battles in the street's ,hope not.

the situation today just beggers belief Joe

Untill the court's really start imposing really tough sentances on gun crime ,,and make them serve there full sentence it wont improve.Anyone who is caught for a crime and is carrying a gun should be tried for attempted murder.

So not at all like the happy glorious days of a Labour government then?

Quote: Voltman wrote in post #7

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So not at all like the happy glorious days of a Labour government then?

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I'm afraid we live in a violent world today ,it seem's everyone is out just for his or her self ,and get it anyway they can and it dos'nt bother them if someone get's hurt along the way.

We could do with people like Mayor Guiliani who used to run New York he instigated Zero tolerance and stood for nothing.

To true mate ,I remember him, if he could clean up new york, brum would be no problem.

We could do it that way but Zero Tolerance unfairly restricts the day to day activities of law breaking citizens.
That is unacceptable, so the rest of us can go screw ourselves, so long as the other lot don't get us first.

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We could do it that way but Zero Tolerance unfairly restricts the day to day activities of law breaking citizens.
That is unacceptable, so the rest of us can go screw ourselves, so long as the other lot don't get us first.

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What are we doing?

Most people? not a lot.